Lake Tanganyikan Community

So this is where all the cool kids hang out !!

Hi all. New to this forum. Newer to fishkeeping in general tbh, but caught the bug and really enjoying it.

I’m in Redmond. Currently in the process of building a Tanganyikan community tank in a 180 gallon.

I purchased the 180 gallon used from someone who was using it as a mixed African cichlid tank - I’m currently working on rehoming the current fish prior to getting in the Tanganyikan community.

There’s a Malawi gar, a single Tropheus Duboisi Maswa, an F1 Zaire Blue Mona frontosa, a large clown loach and a big blue phantom pleco. I’ve been working in talking to people through Facebook to see if I can get these guys new homes. If anyone is interested or knows someone who might be, please let me know.

In the meantime, I’m trying to get the tank jump started through a big order of fish from Butch at South East Cichlids in Atlanta. I’ve already paid for these fish and am working on setting up a date to get them through Southwest Airlines.

The community is planned to include 7 F1 cyprichromis Kitumba, 4 alt conpressiceps Kagunga, 4 orange lelupi, 4 Julie transcriptus, 6 similis and 5 juvie blue Zaire moba Frontosa.

The plan is probably to setup the similis in a separate 4 foot 90 gallon tank to get a little colony going. I’m really wanting to grow that cyprichromis colony, so I imagine I’ll probably move the cyps to that tank at some point to see if I can get them to breed there. I’ll have a 10 gallon cycling to hopefully raise the fry.

The eventual plan will be to move out the frontosa once they’re old enough to fit the cyps in their mouth. Hoping to get 1-2 years out of this setup if the frontosa grow slowly, but will have a few backup plans in case it’s not going well - either move the cyps to that 4 foot tank permanently, rehome the frontosa at that point or move them to a more dedicated frontosa tank

It’s all very exciting and loads to think about. Really excited to be able to watch these fish and learn more about them and their patterns and behaviors. I have 3 young ones who are super excited as well. Happy to hear any experience from the local guys who have been keeping these fish for a longer time.

Also, if anyone wants to add to my order through SE cichlids, im happy to try to work that out. You can check out which fish he has at https://www.southeastcichlids.com/ or check out is YouTube channel.

Really excited to join this community !
 

DMD123

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Welcome to the forum, nice to have some more African cichlid activity here.
 

sir_keith

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Two quick suggestions- (i) A Cyprichromis breeding colony (ideally 12+ fishes) really needs to be in a 72' tank, and (ii) Cyprichromis are not going to be happy with C. frontosa tankmates, irrespective of their size. Good luck.
 
Two quick suggestions- (i) A Cyprichromis breeding colony (ideally 12+ fishes) really needs to be in a 72' tank, and (ii) Cyprichromis are not going to be happy with C. frontosa tankmates, irrespective of their size. Good luck.
Makes sense. I was hoping the little fronts would be ok with the adult cyps im getting, but I guess genetics is a strong pull

I just read that you’ve been increasing your cyp colony as well. what’s your setup for that ?
 

sir_keith

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Makes sense. I was hoping the little fronts would be ok with the adult cyps im getting, but I guess genetics is a strong pull

I just read that you’ve been increasing your cyp colony as well. what’s your setup for that ?
Each of my Cyp colonies (Utinta and Mpimbwe) contains 15+ adults in a 72" 125g with bottom nesters (Enantiopus, Xenotilapia, or Ophthalmotilapia) occupying the substrate. I use 75g tanks as brooding/grow-out tanks.
 
Each of my Cyp colonies (Utinta and Mpimbwe) contains 15+ adults in a 72" 125g with bottom nesters (Enantiopus, Xenotilapia, or Ophthalmotilapia) occupying the substrate. I use 75g tanks as brooding/grow-out tanks.
Wow that’s amazing. How many tanganyikan tanks do you have ? Do you keep any frontosa ?
 
Did you ever know this guy while he was keeping tangs ? I was very inspired by his tank while considering options (along with others).

Frank Mueller Tang community tank:
 
That’s amazing. So the double stacked ones are 4 foot breeders and the 2 longer tanks are 6 feet long? Any Current favorite fish to sit and watch with morning coffee ?
 

sir_keith

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That’s amazing. So the double stacked ones are 4 foot breeders and the 2 longer tanks are 6 feet long? Any Current favorite fish to sit and watch with morning coffee ?
Yes, each rack has two 4-foot tanks, a 75 above and a 40L below (there's a long thread about all this here- Fishroom History).There are also four 100+ gallon tanks: two in the fish room as shown here, one in my TV room, which is immediately adjacent, and a show tank with Tropheus sp. 'black' Ikola in the living room. My two favorite tanks are both 125's, one in the fish room with Cyprichromis 'Utinta' and Ophthalmotilapia nasuta Kipili 'Gold, and one in the TV room with Cyprichromis 'Mpimbwe' and Enantiopus melanogenys. Both Ophthalmotilapia and Enantiopus are lek breeders (tribe Ectodini) in which the males make elaborate nests adjacent to each other on the sand floor, and try to attract females into their nests. The Ophthalmotilapia nests are large, so a 6-foot tank has room for only two of them, but the Enantiopus nests are much smaller, so that I have 5-6 nests along the front glass, which makes for a constantly entertaining display as the females move from nest-to-nest (the whole point of the lek breeding system is to enable the females to raise multipaternal broods). It is the biology of these fishes that I find most interesting.

Here is one of my co-dominant O. nasuta males (a different form from Chimba is shown in the Fishbox banner)-

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Oh boy. That Nasuta with the cyprichromis Utinta is a show stopper I imagine. Color, activity, movement and interesting behaviors all in one

I’ve decided to go with the tanginyikan community in the 180 gallon for now because this will be in the main family area of the house, where we eat dinner and the kids play. The kids love checking in on fish, so I think a community tank with a variety of behavior, color and size is best to retain their interest.

We’re currently on a trip to Toronto and one of our favorite parts was checking out Ripley’s aquarium - they’ve really taken a liking to fish since we started keeping them earlier in the year.
 

sir_keith

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...I’ve decided to go with the tanginyikan community in the 180 gallon for now because this will be in the main family area of the house, where we eat dinner and the kids play...
You might re-think whether Cyprichromis is a good fit for this tank because Cyps can be very skittish and do not like to be housed in high-traffic areas. This is especially true if there is a window on the other side of the room, such that walking by the tank casts a shadow. Many tribe Ectodini Tanganyikans share this characteristic. That said, Live Fish Direct currently has both Utinta and Mpimbwe in stock.
 
@sir_keith do you have experience with Gold Head comps by any chance? Found someone selling a wild batch of 5 gold heads. Trying to figure it out if it will end up a good looking batch (good contrast between dark body and brightly colored head). Seller thinks they’ll color up more once settled. I also have a video if I can figure out how to attach it
 

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