?? HELP IDENTIFY ME ??

[alyssaesk]

Just got this fishy and we are not too sure what he/she is. We got him/her when we picked up our new 75 gallon tank for all of our medium fish and the guy said he/she was a flowerhorn and that his whole family had them but I just don't know if that's true. I have included a bunch of pictures and when he/she is mad he/she turns a burgundy red color and strips up pretty well. He/She is super aggressive and comes at the glass just as much as Ike does at aquarium paradise. Obviously we also don't know whether it is a male or female but its sexual organs came down yesterday and it looks female to me. :?:

Thanks for reading and your input.

long pointed fins!




Horizontal spots and light vertical strips that darken when aggravated.



Rounded lips with bottom jaw being a tiny bit longer then top jaw.



Very Aggressive!!

 

[sandnuka]

first ones worked.

People call flowerhorn pretty much any species that is mixed with midas/red devil, tri mac, texas, synspila..... your fish looks like a pretty poor flowerhorn, maybe it was on the way to becoming a flowerhorn... cause it takes like 4 generations I think?? maybe this is just a cross of two things???

We need the new world cichlids experts to see it.

 

[sandnuka]

flowerhorns are super aggressive btw.... think its the trimac in them that does that.... but whatever the case, Ive never met a nice flowerhorn...always trys to take my hand off whenever I touch the tank!

 

[alyssaesk]

i have has a few flowerhorns before and they dont look anything like this... I think it might be a amphilophus hogaboomorum like these... but he has speckles i think...

http://forums.waterwolves.com/uploads/post-27380-1283315178.jpg

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMJwK2jYJQyNNNufP0BLw1jAjXuKmposmpSBSSb8MDHLrplv78xPW8v-4tlQ

Or a herichthys cynoguttayas (Texas). it looks just like the one in these pictures...

http://foro.acuarios.es/attachments/ciclidos-americanos/65013d1322053726-novia-mi-texas-h_cyanoguttatus_hane-mikael-wiik.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfxwFCv2cg1-bKBPKoUZc_5NQrPKol8go_m68QjbQIlzjW_Dhdbk41iyabnA


I ust think he looks more like these then a flowerhorn but thanks for your help sandnuka! btw what do you mean the new world cichlid experts?

 

[sandnuka]

flowerhorns all look completly different..... It depends on what line they are bread from... you can have a flowerhorn that looks like a parrotfish.... or a flowerhorn that looks exactly like a trimac.... I know you said you had a flowerhorn before, but you had 1 or 2 flowerhorns, and there is over 1000 different variations. some people cross a your amphilophus hogaboomorum (guyas cichlid) with texas cichlids and call them "Flowerhorns" Because the next step they will have them mate with a cross between a trimac and a synspila and that will make a completly different kind of flowerhorn.... Probably similar to the ones you kept with pink eyes and prettier colors.

what I meant by "New world" Experts is the members in here that breed, raise, and that have been keeping New world cichlids (Central, South, and north American cichlids) for years.... these are my New world Experts.

AKA fishnvw, madness are the two that pop in my head immediatly. sure we have more than that though.

 

[sandnuka]

So I do agree with you post though... it does look allot like the fish you posted..... it also has some features of a dovii... thats why I honestly believe it is a flowerhorn type fish..... but again... I am not an expert on new world fish, I am more of a rift lake african cichlid guy.... so wait until we here from some of the others.

 

[alyssaesk]

we know madness and buy alot of our fish from him but ya i see what you mean now about the flowerhorn thing... i do see alot of traits in the fish that could be a few things... i just hope that if he is a hybrid that he was breed well and smartly... i just love blood parrots but i think that its wrong to breed two fish so different from one another that it causes defects in the babies... and thanks for the help with feeders... im gonna bring it up to my fiance ash.

 

[alyssaesk]

i know alot about parachromis genus just because all five of the fish in this genus are in my top favorite list... we have community tanks to the max!!!

 

[aquaman95]

amphilohus or parachromis hybrid ive seen a large amount being introduced.looks good for not being pure.i am not a big hybrid fan anymore

 

[Cory]

My guess is Texas cichlid cross.

 

[aquaman95]

is see texas spots on the face too soo you might be right cory

 

[DMD123]

Looks like a hybrid. What they usually call a "red texas".
The hope is when mature you get this:

Picture used from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Texas.jpg

 

[aquaman95]

no dmd that is a super red texas you are showing.the one in the picture is like a texasxjag not texasxmidas

 

[DMD123]

Just a generic hybrid name I used, there are a ton of reds that never develop into that fish in the picture.

A lot are more like this:

Picture from http://bluegrassaquatics.com/cichlid-texas-red-large.html

Like I said the hope is to get one of those others.

 

[aquaman95]

Both are nicer than the fish in question that has nothing to do with the convo I just felt like sayin

 

[fishman09]

looks like a poor attempt at a red texas to me. either species seperate look muuch nicer on their own

 

[aquaman95]

:iagree:

 

[presleyk]

It's a low qulity red texas cichlid I had one just like it and it looks to be male, my female was alot smaller and had more bars on her. Give it a year or two the solid bar across it's body my fade like mine did and the pearls will stand out better.

 

[presleyk]

In alot of hybrids it's all up to chance, with what you get. And don't count him out just yet some fader genes that are past down in hybrids are like sleeper cells some are triggered at a young age and some are set into motion later on like a year or two in life. Red Texas and Flowerhorns are prolific for changeing over night!

 

[alyssaesk]

i found out its a red texas... aquarium paradise has two that look just like him.. thanks