Agreed. I think we are capable of making the changes needed, and in fact many of the changes are as simple as do less. As I was alluding to a big part of the problem is that we consider the economy a tangible thing, when it really is not. The environment is a real thing, and when push comes to shove is a much much much much more powerful force than the dirty economy which is nudging it into a hostile state. We did fine without an economy for a very long time, and so did the earth and that's actually what makes humans so great, the ability to adapt to many situations. We need to end resource gobbling imperialism, and simply enjoy the good thing we have. Earth. It sounds idealistic to many, but I think it is more realistic than any other scenario. Otherwise we are simply dogs running in circles chasing our tails till all the resources are gone and the planet is a hostile hostile place with no where near enough food to sustain 7 billion and counting. The simplest thing we can do to start the change is buy less crap. If it is plastic put it back, unless you intend on using it for many years. I could go on and on, but I have to run to work (actually skateboard).
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LOL, well if you want my honest opinion Spyral in reality it would serve the earth and it's inhabitants more if you dropped it on China and the US. Simply because we breed to fast, and create more pollution than any others. Not to mention we both have allot of idiots in our countries.
However I am a bit more Optimistic. I think as hard as it is to believe, with a bit of education and perhaps incentive people can simply cut back to 2 kids per couple and just through natural early deaths the population would steadily reduce. The Catholic church should be taking the lead on this since they are kinda dumb when it comes to reproduction.
I also feel inclined to say, some of the nicest and most intelligent people I have ever met were from the middle east. Much kinder on the whole than Americans
granted some Americans are amazingly kind and cool.
However I am a bit more Optimistic. I think as hard as it is to believe, with a bit of education and perhaps incentive people can simply cut back to 2 kids per couple and just through natural early deaths the population would steadily reduce. The Catholic church should be taking the lead on this since they are kinda dumb when it comes to reproduction.
I also feel inclined to say, some of the nicest and most intelligent people I have ever met were from the middle east. Much kinder on the whole than Americans
granted some Americans are amazingly kind and cool.larry.beck
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I'm doing my part; 1 kid from my first marriage and no plans for any in my second. We both feel pretty strongly about that, so we will have done our part to reduce the population explosion.
Nice idea Spy. 
: What we need is some type of weapon created that singles out the stupid people. And it either does 1 of 2 things. Picks them off from space, or takes in the data of each individual, and allows the SPTF (stupid people task force) to retrieve them and dispose of them. Shoot, this will clear out millions this way.
: What we need is some type of weapon created that singles out the stupid people. And it either does 1 of 2 things. Picks them off from space, or takes in the data of each individual, and allows the SPTF (stupid people task force) to retrieve them and dispose of them. Shoot, this will clear out millions this way. 
http://www.7billionandme.org/you/entire-history-of-the-world.php
After you fill in your info, be sure to click on the Since You Were Born tab. If you're as old as I am, it's shocking to see how many have been born since my birth date. :shock:
After you fill in your info, be sure to click on the Since You Were Born tab. If you're as old as I am, it's shocking to see how many have been born since my birth date. :shock:
Well in a manner of speaking the weapon has already been created. It's called Fox News. Now all we need to do is take control of the weapon and broadcast an announcement that they have found a place where it's always sunny, there is endless fuel, no property taxes, no government and there are no liberals. The Sun. Rockets are standing by to take you to this paradise. :welcome!:madness said:Nice idea Spy.
Sorry my republican friends, but then not all republicans watch that garbage, and to those that don't ----> :beer:
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I just want to say kudos from everyone giving their thoughts on this thread and it's spin off topics. All other forums I've posted this on have stayed stagnant. I like good natured but lively discussions. Bottom line, I really do love everyone, even though I want to slap some silly till they wake up :santa:
I just want to say kudos from everyone giving their thoughts on this thread and it's spin off topics. All other forums I've posted this on have stayed stagnant. I like good natured but lively discussions. Bottom line, I really do love everyone, even though I want to slap some silly till they wake up :santa:
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Okay, I can’t stay off this topic any longer.
Many valid points all along this thread. Having been a biologist for many years and studying ecology, evolution and genetics from a macro standpoint, sometimes I think of myself as an alien looking at earth and here’s my simplistic take on things…..
Man is unlike any other populaton of organisms on this earth.
He has the opposable thumb AND a “highly” developed brain. The two together have never been produced in any other species as far as we know. With this combination of characteristics man has been able to modify his environment to fit his needs and desires, and extract resources from it to a greater degree, and faster, than any other organism has been able to do so far.
Man is also like any other population of organisms on this earth.
His population is in an exponential growth phase. Eventually it will reach the point at which the resources of the earth can no longer sustain the population growth rate. At that point waste and lack of food sources will limit the growth rate through hunger, disease, dehydration, reproductive failure, and wars. The population will be in a death phase. We have historical records of these things happening in localized human populations of the past.
Whether the human species will survive the eventual limitations of the growth rate or not, is dependent on how biologically adaptable the species is through that period. If not adaptable, then perhaps the insects may become the next dominant organism on this earth. They already have adapted in extreme ways morphologically and instinctively, to changes in their environment, and have survived many global warmings and global coolings; which, by the way, have been occurring over millions of years. Remember, we humans consider that the dinosaurs at one time were the dominant organism on earth!
Many valid points all along this thread. Having been a biologist for many years and studying ecology, evolution and genetics from a macro standpoint, sometimes I think of myself as an alien looking at earth and here’s my simplistic take on things…..
Man is unlike any other populaton of organisms on this earth.
He has the opposable thumb AND a “highly” developed brain. The two together have never been produced in any other species as far as we know. With this combination of characteristics man has been able to modify his environment to fit his needs and desires, and extract resources from it to a greater degree, and faster, than any other organism has been able to do so far.
Man is also like any other population of organisms on this earth.
His population is in an exponential growth phase. Eventually it will reach the point at which the resources of the earth can no longer sustain the population growth rate. At that point waste and lack of food sources will limit the growth rate through hunger, disease, dehydration, reproductive failure, and wars. The population will be in a death phase. We have historical records of these things happening in localized human populations of the past.
Whether the human species will survive the eventual limitations of the growth rate or not, is dependent on how biologically adaptable the species is through that period. If not adaptable, then perhaps the insects may become the next dominant organism on this earth. They already have adapted in extreme ways morphologically and instinctively, to changes in their environment, and have survived many global warmings and global coolings; which, by the way, have been occurring over millions of years. Remember, we humans consider that the dinosaurs at one time were the dominant organism on earth!