65B finally getting put to use, lol
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Oscar # 2 has he best side markings right now
Oscar #1 has the best tail markings
Oscar #3 resembles a punching bag
Just my opinion......
Also, I wouldn’t feel bad grabbing a couple from petsmart.... just grow them to 5-6” and they will be easy to sell/ rehome. Any bigger and the buyers market pool gets a bit smaller
Oscar #1 has the best tail markings
Oscar #3 resembles a punching bag
Just my opinion......
Also, I wouldn’t feel bad grabbing a couple from petsmart.... just grow them to 5-6” and they will be easy to sell/ rehome. Any bigger and the buyers market pool gets a bit smaller
My problem is that I like Red Oscars... I would get one and like it and then all these wild ones would have to go, lol. I guess adding a few others really is not that big a deal. Im kind of doing that already by planning to just keep one anyway.
If these Columbia Oscars turn out like the ones I posted in the video then Oscar #2 should have an awesome light/dark contrasting pattern.
Decided to try something... found a red oscar at Petsmart. It is bigger than both the Columbia Oscars. Just added it in and it caught on to eating bloodworms from Oscar #2. It showed no aggressiveness toward the smaller fish. Oscar #1 is in a time out net and I will release it when the new red settles in a bit more.
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I went to Petco first and they had a tank full of little tigers and reds and I watched them just going at it but since there was like a dozen of them it seemed aggressiveness was spread out a lot. With me doing just the 3 it just wasn’t enough to save the weakest from getting the brunt of it from two others.
Interesting thought about the albino O’s. A guy on MFK has tried other oscars with his albino and it will not accept another oscar. He has tried like 5 different ones and it just wont work. The fish is in a 125g and at this point about 10 inches so he has pretty much accepted that it is a one oscar tank. It does allow pleco, catfish, silver dollars, green terror and a small red terror with no problems...
This is exactly what happens with Tropheus; it's pretty much impossible to keep fewer that 8-10 individuals, as a minimum, together, because you have to spread the aggression around.
You mean albino oscars tend to beat up wild-types? That's interesting, because in nature albinos of many different animal species are not tolerated by wild-type individuals. This is especially true of herds. That's why albinos in nature are rare, and if you encounter them at all, they tend to be animals that live solitary lifestyles. Of course, albinos are at a major disadvantage with regards to camouflage, photosensitivity, and other survival issues, but intraspecific aggression is a major factor that culls albino individuals from wild populations. Just another reminder that fishes in aquaria can behave very differently from fishes in the wild.
Exactly..... I believe in the aquarium that wild caught fish tend to be more skittish than tank raised. My best guess is that all of petsmart / petco fish are tank raised from major suppliers around the US.
My observation on albinos ( Fish) being more aggressive is only from two experiences I’ve had over the years when I purchased albinos but had to bring the back/ sell them to someone else as they were wired differently than the rest.
He was barely back in and would nip at the other wild but would avoid the tank raised red. So Oscar #1 went back into time out again. I think I might end up with the red and oscar #2 in the 300 because they get along so well.
The person I spoke about on MFK had his Albino kill a wild Columbia Oscar like the one Im raising. Granted there was a size difference of 10" to 5" but generally Oscars are not killers like that. In the wild the percentage of albinos would be pretty rare. The thing about the Albino tank raised Oscars are that these are line bred fish that are mass produced so certain traits I believe are just bred in there. Kind of like flowerhorns tending to be more aggressive than the sum of their parts. Ive heard of this aggressive behavior out of albinos from a few different individuals. Kind of weird, like you said how they can behave very differently from fishes in the wild.
So far my wild Oscars have proved to be quite skittish in comparison to the tank raised red that I have. The tank raised actually seems to be a calming influence. I think pretty much the big box stores are getting their fish from Segrest farms, so likely the same base parents are supplying the fry all over the US.
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. Genetic selection for one trait, e.g. albinism, will invariably bring other traits along, in an entirely unpredictable manner. These individuals have no problem surviving in captivity- we see to that because we think they're 'cute'- but they would never survive in the wild. I mentioned the issues that albinos have in nature in terms of viability, but if, in addition, they are hyper-aggressive, it's a genetic dead-end, because too much aggression precludes
procreation. So that's the end of the story for them, at least in the wild.
Couldn’t agree more
I knew it would happen... I really like this red oscar. Was not planning on adding two Oscars but if these two continue to get along like this then they both will end up in the 300. Today the little red ate blood worms out of my fingers like the wild does.
Was on another forum and I got info on what to expect from the wild. Likely it will remain pretty bland until adulthood and then the patterns will show.... so at least a year of bland
Was on another forum and I got info on what to expect from the wild. Likely it will remain pretty bland until adulthood and then the patterns will show.... so at least a year of bland
With your water change schedule you will have adults in 6-8 monthsI knew it would happen... I really like this red oscar. Was not planning on adding two Oscars but if these two continue to get along like this then they both will end up in the 300. Today the little red ate blood worms out of my fingers like the wild does.
Was on another forum and I got info on what to expect from the wild. Likely it will remain pretty bland until adulthood and then the patterns will show.... so at least a year of bland