New cichlid!

protocl

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Re: New cichlid!

hbluehunter said:
Don't worry about putting me down, I'm the first one to say I'm no geo expert.. I was just saying it might be an altifron because it looked similar to mine.. Mine just don't have the spot on the side which throws me off..
well, i knew it started with SUR, thus i agreed.
 

JK47

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Re: New cichlid!

protocl said:
Cole99v said:
It's either Geophagus Altifrons or some type of Surinamensis, those are the two most common types you see around here besides the former "Geo Jurupari/ daemon"
I'm leaning on Surinamensis.
True Geophagus surinamensis are scatered in very small numbers across Europe. Nothing is being exported out of Suriname these days so the label Geophagus surinamensis is commonly applied to the "surinamensis complex" that Kullander broke up a number of years back into various described species (Geophagus altifrons, Geophagus dicrozoster, Geophagus abalios, Geophagus branchybrachus etc..).

What you have is a Geophagus abalios. The large midlateral spot is the deal breaker. It spans more than 4 scales eliminating Geophagus altifrons (small to no midlateral spot) and it's many regional varients, there is no black smudge of color on the muzzle of the fish as well which eliminates Geophagus dicrozoster. The broken line on the caudal fin as opposed to spotting (spotting being a Geophagus altifrons sign) along with bisect lateral barring is a traight only found in Geophagus abalios, the fish pictured above. They are immediate mouth brooders and reach about 10"-12" as adults.

The "geo jurupari and daemon" mentioned above are from a seperate genus of the eartheater family, under Satanoperca, of which there are 7 described species, none without a spot on the caudal peduncle. That's how you rule that genus out as well.

Hope that helps clear it up for you. You have a lovely fish.
Justin-
 

hbluehunter

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Re: New cichlid!

Glad to see my Geo buddy here to clear stuff up.. Now if we can just get some other guys to start keeping them.. :)
 

JK47

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Re: New cichlid!

dmopar74 said:
which ones get about 12"? jurupari?
The non-spotted Satanoperca (jurupari, leucosticta, mapiritensis, pappaterra) do not get as large (at least not as fast) as the spotted verieties (acuticeps, lilith, daemon). The spotted Satanoperca can easily hit 10" as adults. Both Geophagus altifrons and Geophagus abalios can reach 12". Top of the scale but can happen if well cared for.

EDIT: oh and thanks for the invite here hbluehunter ;) I appreciate it. I wish I lived closer to you guys.
 

JK47

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Re: New cichlid!

protocl said:
You made an excellent thread about installing your current 3D background on MFK!
Hey thanks! I have 4 tanks converted over to 3D now. If you ever need help with one drop me a line. :)
 
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