I was asked to show some pictures of my pack of Xiloensis, They are raging from 5"-8". 2 of the 4 are pie bald, one has a nice pink under his 'bars', and one is still in the juvinile "barred " phaze. They are F1 bred locally, from a wild pair that Jeff Rapps imported. The pair now belongs to Mike at 'Aquraist World' in white center, also Jeff has a picture of the male of the pair on his website, 'tangledupincichlids.com'. There are also some F1 Amarillos swimming with the Xilos. Enjoy I sure do!